Four The Win

Four The WinThere are laying systems in abundance these days. Some are good, some not so good, but every now and again you come across one that turns out to be absolutely exceptional and that’s exactly what happened to us this month.

When I first discovered Four The Win I was instantly impressed with both the simplicity of the system and the fact that it concentrates on hot favourites whose average odds are just 1/1. On top of that it takes just 10 minutes a day to find the selections, so straight away I could see we had an easily operated, potentially profitable, system on our hands.

This is what I had to say about it prior to starting our test:

I’m a big fan of the old ”Keep It Simple Stupid” adage when it comes to horse racing systems, because if a system has too many rules it’s almost certainly been backfitted and if this is the case, it’s highly unlikely that what happened in the past will continue to prove profitable in the future.

That’s a cold hard fact I’m afraid, so if you ever purchase a system and find that it’s practically unworkable in practice because of the number of rules involved, do yourself a favour and treat it with extreme caution. In the vast majority of cases it will save you time, effort and expense.

Someone who agrees with me on this is Joe from Four The Win.

Joe’s created a horse racing laying system that’s based on solid form-based principles, that’s simple in the extreme and that targets runners at the bottom end of the odds range, so unlike many of the laying systems I see nowadays, the odd winner here or there is never going to wipe out your betting bank. It’s a very selective system that quite simply highlights runners with a weak profile in races that are competitive enough to warrant taking them on.

This is exactly how bookmakers operate and if it’s your goal to succeed as a betting exchange layer, you could do worse than follow the time-proven principles of traditional bookmaking.

Joe’s system comes packaged in a short, well-written, 16 page ebook that explains everything you need to know clearly and concisely. You’ll know exactly what your selections are likely to be the evening before racing and the rules of the system are all very straightforward.

I’ll be testing Four The Win for the next month with a £1000 starting bank and I’ll be aiming to win £25 on each bet, using a non-aggressive version of the Fibonacci staking plan (as is advised in the book) to recoup losses from winning bets.

We then tested Four The Win for the full month of March (you can check the full results here) and to say we were impressed with what happened would be an understatement!

This is what Craig said when he wrote his final review:

Well, we’ve come to the end of the road for our months test of Four The Win and it’s been a fascinating month. When I first saw the system I was a little sceptical. There are only four simple rules to be followed, and although I could see the logic behind the system, I was a little apprehensive that the system would work at the prices we were laying at. Include a loss recovery staking plan and I had visions of money going down the tube – oh how wrong was I???

I have been astounded by the performance of Four The Win, and I do mean absolutely astounded. In the 30 days of testing we made 16 points profit, and when you consider the average odds we were laying at were evens, and that a large amount of selections were actually odds on, that is simply amazing. We returned a 41.5% profit on our bank, which is a huge ROI and again at the odds is, quite simply, outstanding!

Bare in mind that this is a system that will take you ten minutes a day to find your selections and you have what must be one of the most simple, straightforward, yet ultimately rewarding systems I have seen.

It’s no secret that I’m a big fan of laying, and some of the systems I’ve used in the past have had good success laying at the higher end of the odds market, but at that end you will be laying over the odds and a winner can cause a bit of a dent in your profits, but with Four The Win the odds are almost always within a couple of percent of official SP and often will beat SP because its all hot, hot favourites we’re laying.

So, to sum up, Four The Win is a laying system that lays at an average price of evens, uses a sensible loss recovery plan (which only twice did we go as far as the 3rd bet), has a strike rate in the region of 70% (meaning it will profit at level stakes) and is incredibly easy to operate. Add in the fact that Joe has provided us with excellent customer service, offers a tipping email service, and was only too willing to answer any of our queries and I have no choice but to give Four The Win….

…..FIVE OUT OF FIVE!

Now, some of you might look at the 16 points profit we generated and not be overly impressed with that, but in terms of return on investment this has exceeded everything we’ve ever reviewed on here multiple times over. Keep in mind that many laying systems target runners at 5/1, 6/1, or even 8/1, so your liabilities are 5x, 6x, or 8x higher than with Four The Win. This means that if you were operating on a liability basis you could effectively use 5x, 6x, or 8x larger stakes and when you look at it that way, the returns from this system are absolutely HUGE!

I can honestly say that I haven’t come across anything as appealing as this before. It pinpoints short priced favourites who lose with amazing accuracy and takes just 10 minutes a day to find them, so if you’ve been searching for something that’s extremely easy to operate, profitable in the extreme, and that won’t have you quaking in your boots every time one of your lay bets goes and wins, then look no further than Four The Win.

This one is the business – I love it!

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  1. Scott says:

    Joe

    On your blog you refer to an independent system test.

    Look at the results for this test, then compare to your own results…

    eg, 19th June – you have 3 selections, test had 7
    20th, you 5 selections, test 6
    21st, you 2 selections, test 4
    26th, you 0 selections, test 2

    Why are there such massive discrepancies with the results? Nearly all of the odds are well within the odds range specified so would qualify easily. There seems to be differences in the number of selections almost every day.

    I’ve no problem with the odd result here and there as prices can change, but if you compare the test results with your own there are far too many missing for that too be the case.

  2. Joe says:

    Scott,

    Yes there do seem to be different selections between the results. I’m not sure if they are using different filters or what time they are placing bets as this can cause a difference in results if they’re not placing them at the off.

    System results often differ from other users for many reasons. It is not always negatively either. There have been many occasions where I have not been matched on FTW and other users have been where the horse lost and I have not included it in my results.

    This is a reason why I am considering having an email service only for FTW as it would help minimise these discrepancies. BTW is run like that and everybody has had the same results as the website which has been nice and I haven’t had a single mail complaining about the differing results!

  3. Joe says:

    I forgot to mention that both the results from the test and those on my site, even though have some different selections are both showing profit for the period.

  4. Marco says:

    Hi,

    can someone confirm that the latest selection for FTW2 was Galiana on 28th July at Uttoexter ?
    I didn’t find any more selections since then.

    Regards
    Marco

  5. Marco says:

    Hi,

    forget about my question before. I found the results on the FTW page and reread the manual.
    It was my mistake. I was to strict with the selection.

    Regards
    Marco

  6. Francis says:

    Another 4-in-a-row today wiith fourtheloss, oops, fourthewin?

  7. stewboss says:

    @Francis

    Just back them to win!

    There’s no logical reason why they should lose (read page 150 of the False Favourites system).

  8. Joe says:

    @Francis

    What selections did you have on the 25th that resulted in 4 losses?

  9. Joe says:

    @ Francis

    Sorry I realise you were talking about FTW2 not FTW1. Yes a loss but still showing £5361 profit since 18th April.

    @Stewboss
    Still showing £5361 profit since 18th April.

  10. Can you select and put your sel’s on prior to racing

    with thanks AH.

  11. Craig says:

    @Andrew – Yes you can. There is a bit of a staking plan involved that if you couldn’t follow the races you wouldn’t be able to follow completely.

  12. chris says:

    Am new to your site – love the involvement of everyone and am going to explore your other reviews.

    Made a beeline to this one as have been running FTW2 since June, with good results

    While it is a while since Andrew made his enquiry, I dont use a bot and cant be at the computer during racing, so bet early and treat each day as an entity to follow so if more than one selection on a day, treat them as one.

    On Saturday and Sunday which are the days (especially Saturday when there tends to be a multiple selcections) I usually able to follow them by race if needed.

  13. jack says:

    Craig are there any bots available for a mac?

  14. Craig says:

    @Jack – I honestly couldn’t say. I’ve never had a Mac myself so I’ve never thought to look. Your best bet would be to contact the various bot sellers and ask if they have a Mac compatible version.

  15. Menkki says:

    I dunno,

    i bought this system… Virtually no, and I mean no horses fall into the category joe gives us!!!

    Am I like searching the wrong way? wrong time?
    i don’t get it.
    feels like I just wasted 2 hrs of my life, and money also

  16. Craig says:

    @Mennki – I think you must be doing something wrong. This month alone I’ve had well over 50 bets.

    I’m about to work out todays potential selections so I’ll let you know how many I have today.

  17. Menkki says:

    @craig

    ok thx bro… I really appreciate any help…

    thank you

    my email is menkki83@hotmail.com

    if you can help, I really would be grateful.
    don’t wanna be leave out in the dark

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