Refuse To Lose
Refuse To Lose is a new backing/dutching system that’s written by Bernard Hibbert of Chester Racing Club and supplied through Sportsworld Publishing that comes with a claimed 80% strike rate, which is quite some claim!
In order to achieve this strike rate, the method focuses on very specific racing trends and, as such, there will be a few ‘no bet’ days but occasionally, I’m told, there may be two or three bets in a day. Since the system came into being in Dec 2007, it has achieved a claimed 1030 points profit up to the end of February – another big claim!
Refuse To Lose, comes in the form of a 10 page Word document, with the last two pages dedicated to previous results. It is a fairly easy read, although there is a lot of information to absorb, and the method itself will take a little getting used to. However, for the next three months there is a tipping line updated daily so it is possible to check your selections against those of the author, which will certainly prove helpful in the early days.
My initial impressions are really quite good. It’s not a new idea, but is something I’d never thought of before and certainly makes a lot of sense. I do have some initial reservations, those being that the dutching is done with two horses at the sharp end of the market and therefore can effectively be like backing at heavy odds on which means the strike rate really will need to be 80% or there about.
The guide comes with its own staking plan dependant on the odds of our selections and keeps it nice and simple, just a case of checking the prices of the selections against the points value allocated to those particular odds in the table within the guide – simple really! Also, it uses a loss recovery plan but it’s not overly agressive and as long as the strike rate is in the claimed region then shouldn’t pose any problems.
Now, for the bank…the Refuse To Lose system recommends a 1000 point bank and so for this test we’ll start with a £2000 bank and a stake of £2 per point.
Below you’ll find the results for the test followed by the conclusion of Refuse To Lose…
Results
Date | Day No. | Daily P/L (£) | Total P/L (£) |
08-Apr | 1 | 90 | 90 |
13-Apr | 2 | 92.5 | 182.5 |
15-Apr | 3 | 30 | 212.5 |
19-Apr | 4 | -204.22 | 8.28 |
21-Apr | 5 | 302 | 310.28 |
24-Apr | 6 | 65.6 | 375.88 |
25-Apr | 7 | 122.25 | 498.13 |
26-Apr | 8 | -137 | 361.13 |
27-Apr | 9 | 235 | 596.13 |
02-May | 10 | 69.25 | 665.38 |
03-May | 11 | 74 | 739.38 |
10-May | 12 | 0 | 739.38 |
12-May | 13 | 68 | 807.38 |
16-May | 14 | 52.4 | 859.78 |
18-May | 15 | -148 | 711.78 |
20-May | 16 | 148 | 859.78 |
Conclusion
So, we tested 3 and a half systems this month and this may just be the one I’m most excited about! Refuse To Lose came amongst a flurry of wild claims of massive profits and astounding strike rates, something that’s heard all too often in the murky world of betting systems. There was a glimmer of light, however, as it came from the well respected Sportsworld Publishing.
I was grateful to open the system document (in Word format) and find I had no more than 10 pages to work through and the last two are the past results…lovely! My first read through took just 10 minutes, with a further read through to make sure I was understanding what the author was saying. No problems here, and it was nice to see the logic behind the system too. For the test (and to save me time cos I’m a lazy sod) I mainly used the free selection telephone line that’s provided with the system.
I only bet in 18 days of the last month, which surprised me a little. What surprised me more was the profit I’ve pulled in that time – a few pennies shy of £860…in 18 days…..WOW! The test started well with profit arriving over the first few days of betting before hitting a particularly bad day where I dropped £204 and wiped out all but £8 of my profit. However, from there on in Refuse To Lose showed it has real potential by going on a particularly strong run of consistency. Sure, there were losers in there but they were well covered by the amount of winners.
Refuse To Lose utilises a conservative loss recovery plan, only ever aiming to recover lost stakes before looking for profit again. This is a relatively safe way of protecting both profits and bank, but because we’re dutching the selections here, you do need a substantial bank and I think the 1000 points RTL recommends is about right. The worst stage in the test did see the bank take a bit of a nosedive and the stakes did get a bit on the high side, but that’s the very reason for recommending a big bank.
So…£860 profit in 18 days to £2 stakes…or 430 points profit! But don’t go getting too carried away, as one of the ’secrets’ of the system is the varied staking that comes with it. It’s not one point stakes you use, you will use anywhere between 20 and 80 points and most will be between 60 and 75 points per bet but with the high strike rate, that really is nothing to worry about. Speaking of the strike rate, it is claimed to be in the region of 80%, but our trial had a 69.5% S/R. That doesn’t worry me as we only had 23 bets so it’s hardly a significant sample.
Overall, it’s a thumbs up for Refuse To Lose. The methodology is sound, it’s well written, clear, concise and moreover, highly PROFITABLE and I don’t foresee the selection method letting us down in the future either as it’s based on stats, and stats are good!
I have look at their website but I am not sure what they offer you….Email or telephone service? Do you have to call them to find out the tips for horse race or receive the email from them?
Many thanks,
Jono
You get an ebook with the system detailed step by step – all four of them
Ok..If you say all four of them but I dont want to call them. Will email is ok for me?
Cheers Craig
Jono, the complete system is included in the ebook, so that’s all you need. They’ve set up a telephone line that you can phone to check the selections, but it isn’t necessary to do that.
This is looking really promising Craig. Early days obviously, but 10% profit on the bank after three betting days isn’t to be sniffed at!
Like you say Jeremy, it is early days, but the profit it has generated has taken me by surprise. I had a feeling it would be a good little system, but not this good
Chas, you can use the online version of the Racing Post. We’ve been checking the selections on their phone line against the online RP and you definitely can get the info you need from there.
Chas, I think the only difference is that you need to click through to the individual race info to see if a second favourite has won. It’s easy enough though, plus it saves £50 a month or whatever the RP costs these days too
Hi Guys
Its nice to see that it recovered fully yesterday .
Can you please enlighten us on how many pts you had to risk yesterday to get it to recover fully and in the worst case senario, would it mean a very large stake if you had lost yesterday
Best wishes
James
Hi James,
It was 93 points required to win back the previous losses, which isn’t bad when you’re working off a 1000 point bank
Been away for a few days . Thanks for the response Craig but lets break it down a bit
On Day 6 you lost 204 , then the next day you had to risk another 93 pts , so in fact you were working off a 806 pt bank and not a 1000 pt bank. Now if you had lost on day 7, ( which could have happened, anything can happen in horse racing ) , you would be down almost 300 pts. My question is , if this was the case , would you have to risk 300 pts in the next race to claim back the loses .
It’s impossible to say how much you’d have to risk James as the amount of points you risk is entirely dependant on the odds available. Some of the winners we’ve had have been at surprisingly good prices.
I’m not saying this is fool proof, but I do think that if the strike rate is confirmed at 80% then your bank will be safe. Yes, it will take a dip, and sometimes that will be a big dip, but that’s why the author has set a sensible 1000 point bank.
Hi Craig, Just wondering if the phone line does be updated on a Sunday ? . It is usually updated between 12 – 1 pm. Its 1.40 pm and no update for today
Hi James,
I called it around 11:45 this morning and it had been updated then….they said something about having a problem yesterday.
There’s no selection today though.
This is extremely strange . I have been calling in the last 2 hrs and it keeps giving me yesterday’s info . Weird ! . As always , thanks for you speedy reply Craig
Totally baffling me, I’ve just tried it again just now and got today’s message so that’s really strange!
If you have problems tomorrow drop me a line and I’ll let you know the score.
Hi Craig . We had a loss on Thurs . Total staked was 69 pts . hope this helps . It does not matter anyways, as today’s ( sat ) win would have recovered the loss .
James, you’re a true gent
Thanks very much, I’ll not bother updating the P/L then as it will be identical.