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@Rod,
Don’t forget the 71 pages of the 72 page manual explaining how to place a bet on Betfair. Plus what about all of those free bonuses. If this system doesn’t work then surely one of those must? Plus a lot of those systems have got ‘Pro’ in the title so they must be good. I’m almost wetting myself with excitement. I can’t wait until tomorrow.
Got to sign off as I can hear Jeff coming back.
The Mutt. Arf Arf. Grrrrrrr.
@Guy
I joined the tip exchange via your link, will I automatically get your footie tips sent or is there something else I must sign up to?
Ohhhh, can’t wait till Monday Nov 3, theres a big horse racing giveaway…I am quivering with excitement…..not.
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@TonyT
If you have had a Tip Exchange account before, you only have to subscribe to “The Risky Guy” service. If not, you will have to create an account and then subscribe to my service. Have a look to your porfolio on your Tip Exchange account, you will see to which services you are subscribed.
Thanks for joining….
re Richard stableincome – I wouldn’t get too excited mate — their criteria is very similar to betalay except I believe it’s laying a different selection.Can’t remember where I read that it’s a load of old bollocks like so many other systems out there.Their results are at s.p and don’t factor commision .
@TonyT
Here’s another taster
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This weekends selections for the SHOT SUPREMACY system :-
All the bets for Saturday, November 1, 2008.
Chelsea v Sunderland Back 5pts Match Winner: Chelsea
Man Utd v Hull Back 5pts Match Winner: Man Utd
Stoke v Arsenal Back 5pts Match Winner: Arsenal
Oldham v Yeovil Back 1pt Match Winner: Oldham
Peterborough v Hereford Back 1pt Match Winner: Peterborough
Bradford v Barnet Back 1pt Match Winner: Bradford
Lille v Nantes Back 2pts Match Winner: Lille
B Munich v Bielefeld Back 2pts Match Winner: B Munich
Reggina v Inter Back 3pts Match Winner: Reggina
All the bets for Sunday, November 2, 2008.
Lyon v Le Mans Back 2pts Match Winner: Lyon
Atalanta v Lecce Back 3pts Match Winner: Atalanta
Cagliari v Bologna Back 3pts Match Winner: Cagliari
Lazio v Catania Back 3pts Match Winner: Lazio
Sampdoria v Torino Back 3pts Match Winner: Sampdoria
@Craig,
CeeBeeies is looking good for tonight.
@Jeff – Ooooo….fingers crossed
I ve seen every bob the builder 6 itimes over
@stewboss
good lluck will have a few shekles on
lee
@Craig,
Not again.!!!!!!!!! I missed the steamer & leap year winner from last night, but somehow always manage to be around for the losers. The perfect end to a perfect day.!!! PP & TTS gave me a good kicking today. It’s some sort of plot.
@Jeff – This is really beginning to cheese me off! I missed last nights too cos I had not long got in and didn’t double check the odds. I have to confess to getting more than a little frustrated with this one!!!
@ Scott & all,
The big ‘free’ giveaway you have pasted there ensures that every vendor on that list gets your email to blast you with affiliate products for the rest of your life.
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Reading a few names on that list makes me cringe. Graham Lawrie, Greame Murray and Steve Davidson make such a great living from people who don’t know better, they churn either systems or affiliate blogs or both and are only in it for your buck.
Avoid like the plague or take up their offer and spend the next few hours un-subscribing from their autoresponders….
Richard
They quote all there lays to sp, that is more than enough to forget about it
Compiler selections inspiring again I see.
I just don’t know how they pick em.
Mark
hello craig and paul,ant chance of you running a test on paul fowlie’s new system,dodgy favourites,was thinking about buying this one,because it sounds as if it might suit me,but i dont seem to be hearing much about it.
cheers guys,ricky
@Ricky – I have said system and I’m looking into having it backtested at the mo..I’ll update you on how it goes as soon as I can.
I’m having a betting free weekend me thinks…I’m off fishin’ on the Tay! Wish me luck
Todays selections
1.11.08
Lay
12.30 Busker Royale
1.50 Tell Henry
Back Bets
1.15 Billie Magern
2.20 Blaebury
2.40 Leo’s lucky star
3.00 Liberate
3.15 Ringaroses
3.35 Turrko
Good luck
good luck craig,hope u catch a few big ones,no bets for me 2day as well, i had a profitable october,best wishes ricky
@ Craig, Salmon or trout?
It’s not over yet today but it was a wise decision to go fish’n -we top three dutch boys would have needed more than a finger in the dyke to stop the deluge of outsiders today!
Are you Psychic Craig?
Question: Could it be that some days the handicappers treat themselves? ie. shorten the SP on the wrong horses for a laugh ? (Maybe I’m too cynical there)
@ richard,
Please can you let me know what systems you are using as you say you have come out with a profit for the month of the october.
I have had an atrocious month. Thinking of taking October and April off, too much hassle.
Thanx
Anwar
@richard,
If I were you I’d look up the results of Lay The Place, Curse of the Handicapper, Ahead of the Field( withdrawn) and 2 of the 3 sections of Stat Attack before I laid my money down for Dodgy Favorites.
@ Tony T
There’s some right dodgy names on that list!!
Matt Bisogno
Henry McAnenly
Benjamin Street
Matt Watson
Ken Millard
Scott Daniels
Iain Lewington
Graham Laurie
Max Redd
George Kaywood
Nick Johnson
Paul Whelan
Simon Morley-Smith
John Armstrong
Jonathan Burgess
Flo Jordan
Donald Hunting
Steve Davidson
Betfair Pirates
Richard Goldie
Graeme Murray
UCantLose
Doug Chambers
Sian Vickers
Richard Mark
Kevin Schmidt
Steve Reid
Gavin Priestley
….and more!
@Ricky – Thanks for the good luck, didn’t work tho
@Marc – It was none of the above…I barely managed to catch a cold! All I caught was a measly tiny cod that had to go straight back. My 7 year old caught one too, and a crab! Pesky fish
As for being psychic…not quite but I often find Saturdays are hard days in the office and best spent doing summit else. Sounds like I was wise today (although I did have a few footie wagers that haven’t paid off…3 still to go though so everything crossed!)
@Craig,
You don’t wanna hear this but a clean sheet for PP today + TTS looped upwards again with a 16.00 biggy (14/1 SP). Just to add to your misery all of this wind & rain we’ve got down here. Guess what? It’s heading your way.!!!
@ Marc in sunny France
Please can you email me, i have only managed to lose your email addy.
apologies
Anwar
@ Anwar,
Did your dutching idea come unstuck?
@Jeff – You truly are my little ray of sunshine aren’t you
So, let me get this straight…no fish, no profit, when I could have had plenty, and the heavens will open anytime now…gee, life just gets better don’t it 
@All
adrianmassey.com (laying competition) check out this months photo of Maria – oh my God !
Nurse – please my pills
@ Marc
I just wanted to let you know that the system is coming on really nice. Frustating sometimes,, as the liabilities are too high, but overall, one race normally comes under the liability which is enough to give us our 100 pounds for the day.
Have you managed to add anything onto it to make it even more lethal?
Thanx
Anwar
anwar,i think i have just been lucky mate,cant say that i follow any special systems,just mainly been laying horses not 2 win and sometimes not to place and usually stoping when i am in front on the day,as i am not a greedy person,£20 or £30 a day is fine for me,but knowing me i usually have a brainstorm every couple of months and lose it all back,otherwise i would probably be rich by now,best wishes,richard
Hi Guys.
Dodgy Fav’s
October’s Results
£1,681 after Betfairs Enhanced Odds and commission
November, 3 Bets
Air Force One, 2nd 9/4
Kirklees 2nd 11/8
Bankable Unp. 11/8
I’m doing a free e-mail service for 1 month with this system, everyone will get the same results as all selections are now put on my website (for members) each day
There is not a single negative anyone can say about this system, no more talk about laying at SP, about getting matched or not, everyone will get exactly the same result
Regards
Paul
http://www.thetimemaster.co.uk
@Craig,
Worst bet of yesterday. I booked you to win the fishing competition with your son & the Mutt backed you for a Plaice, so neither of us won.!!!!
Oh my COD…Jeff I geddit, a plaice, you’re a SLIPPERY one. I think we HADDOCK enough of these fishy jokes.
@Paul Fowlie
Why not post your selections here for a month, or let us try for a month without commitment first or buying the system. That way we can test it for ourselves and obviously you will get a lot more people buying if the trial shows a decent profit to level stakes. I for one will not be buying anymore or paying for tipping until I personally have made a profit on a trial basis. I have bought too many systems and tipsters to be throwing more money away.
@John Kerr – That’s worth taking a trip to Riga for !!!! Had my pills !!
@ Anwar
No, but Acelays is brill of course.
At first I thought the tips boxes on RP might add to it. Not really, apparently. (Although a week is hardly confirmatory proof) Also I thought maybe a lower threshold of your 60-70% favs would do it -say 4 favs out of 10 and not always ten years of history, to get more bets in. But again, not after yesterdays debacle!!
I think your system sounds better-going for fewer than more
Bon chance with it-interesting to hear progress.
@Marc in exile,
After fiddling around with Acelays for about a month paper-trading I’ve restarted a test using default & custom settings with a max filter of 6.00 BF for the last 2 weeks. Flat & AW only.
Results are;
default +0.27 (5W/2L)
default Naps (-15 score) +0.95 (1W/0L)
Custom +0.235 (8W/3L)
Custom Naps (-15 score) -2.00 (1W/1L)
All selections done in the morning. Any selections that mysteriously appear during racing as they occasionaly do due to n/runners etc ignored.
Early days yet, but I do like it. Hopefully Glen will sort out the N.Hunt settings then we can really rev it up.
@Tony T,
Excellent suggestion, let’s face it what’s to lose. The only concern for the system seller would be that we might work out the system from the selections, but I for one would quite happily pay £75 for a system that I’d paper-traded for a month successfully. Racing systems are unlike any other product, you can’t try before you buy. I wonder why!!!
I keep being offered (“to a limited circle of clients”) a golf programme for £4,000!!!! Being expensive it’s resonable to think it must work at that price, the reported results are impressive. After the 5th e-mail (remember this offer is only open only to a few and will end soon forever!!!) I made exactly the same offer as you have just done. Send me the selections, I’ll paper-trade them for a month & if they show a decent profit I’ll pay £4k, if not I’ll walk away and neither of us has lost anything. My offer wasn’t taken up.
The usual refrain is “we offer a moneyback guarantee” knowing that most punters won’t take it up. Sellers & tipsters should take advantage of sites like OBE as a successfull system trial would only be to their advantage. Why don’t they take up that opportunity???
I’ll let you make up your own mind on that one.
TONY T,
well put mate,maybe paul fowlie will take your advice,then again!
that’s what we need a live test,we could all post results of what happened in the past,we had no proof that these results are correct,there are some people on OBE that use dodgy favs,how do their results compare to mr fowlie’s.
still at least with this system he says the resultsare quoted at betfair SP,with commission taken out,so fair play paul,lets just hope the results are not just plucked out of thin air,sorry to sound so negative,best wishes richard
@Jeff and the Mutt
Yes Acelays is user-friendly (even idiot -proof if I can operate it). I liked it for the instant
fav histories it gives. I’ll have to tweak it a bit more and keep reading Glen’s good info too.
Cheers for those settings
Dodgey Favs
Yes if he gives us all a trial then theres definitely no differences in the results, only the odds each of us got on. If its mostly favs then the differences shouldn’t be that big. We may work out the selection process from the picks but if it works and makes me a decent return I would be willing to buy the system outright rather than second guess the system. If it really works and the selection takes a bit of work I would even be willing to pay him the £10 a month to send me the picks then we definitely would have the same results!
So come on Paul. what say you. You have nothing to lose but a LOT to gain. If Dodgey favs IS your best system, you may even make a lot of loyal followers for life.
If paul fowlie is posting his results at betfair sp then that means that we should make more profit than the results if followed correctly as the betfair sp is always much higher, correct?
@Tony T
What excellent ideas for Mr Fowlie to conjure with. He must be scratching his head thinking ‘Christ they’re not as daft as I thought’ !
@Chris,
I think he means at betfair odds not betfair SP. It appears to be a laying system so BF SP would not be a good idea. The critisism from the guys & gals on here has always been that too many system sellers quote past results to SP not BF exchange prices at the off. To be fair to Paul Fowlie he’s listened to that critisism on here and acted on it. A shame more vendors don’t follow his lead. Let’s face it there’s no better place to prove yourself than on a forum if you want to drum up business.
OBE Power. Rock on..
Guys ,
I think thats a great idea even if Paul only placed his selections on here for a week.
He might say that from his postings you might be able to work out his selections so you won’t need to purchase the system …who knows..
@David
Well done- good going!
HI Marc,
Hope your well..
David,
keep it going, every one has bad days, you are still in front, so keep pickin and stickin em here.
Gary,
Thanks, no worries on the score of keep pickin em i know at the end of the day i’ll be happy..
Although , its difficult to me to post on here most days..